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=== Problems Encountered ===
=== Problems Encountered ===
Revision as of 07:38, 24 October 2020
This is a list of web game technologies that we hope to support in the future. If you'd like to help us add one of these technologies to Flashpoint, please join the #development-chat channel in our Discord.
Here are some places to find more technologies to add to Flashpoint:
- 1 QuickTime VR
- 2 Atomic 3D / Neutron Viewer
- 3 Panda3D Plugin
- 4 MDL Chime
- 5 Google Native Client
- 6 Grail
- 7 X3D
- 8 Castle Game Engine Web Plugin
- 9 Tulip 3D
- 10 Adobe Atmosphere
- 11 LIVEMATH
- 12 O3D
- 13 Rebol
- 14 HotSauce
- 15 Pipelight
- 16 MrSID
- 17 o2c
- 18 XVR
- 19 Added Technologies
- 19.1 Pulse3D - Added in Flashpoint 8.1
- 19.2 VRML - Added in Flashpoint 8.2
- 19.3 Tcl Plugin - Added in Flashpoint 8.2
- 19.4 Burster - Added in Flashpoint 8.2
Uses the Windows system directory and is not portable.
The latest version available on apple.com requires Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Service Pack 1 MFC.
Both Apple Application Support and QuickTime are required. Registry entries point to their locations.
Not all data in quicktime.reg is likely needed.
In Flashpoint, Basilisk is currently configured to disable QuickTime by default to avoid conflicts.
Some of the npqtplugin.dll files may interfere with other video/audio plugins or built-in behavior. It may make sense to have the QuickTime plugin available only when viewing a QuickTime curation. Basilisk's built-in MIME type configuration dialog can also be used to choose what plugins are used for different types of content.
Atomic 3D / Neutron Viewer
Install and demos: http://www.ddrose.com/~drose/plugin/install_plugin.html
Latest runtime: https://www.panda3d.org/download/runtime-1-0-4/
Open directory of Panda3D stuff: http://www.ddrose.com/~drose/p3d_7/
Pac-Bat - tested and working on 2019-07-21
A3P - Acquire, Attack, Asplode, Pwn! - tries to install Python and crashes
Has a huge number of runtime components that are downloaded and installed on demand. They are listed here: http://runtime.panda3d.org/contents.xml
The runtime components are all available from this open directory: http://runtime.panda3d.org/
Install and demos: https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~biotext/chimedemos/getplugins.html
When the plugin is installed, navigating to a page that uses the plugin immediately crashes K-Meleon.
Google Native Client
Slimjet 10, Used by oshaboy for testing: https://bluepload.unstable.life/slimjet10.exe
Bastion Demo (Some Assets lost)
"[6708:11872:0517/190417:ERROR:nacl_process_host.cc(215)] DuplicateHandle() failed" on Chromium 40
and .pexe files get downloaded by the browser, but don't start.
Slimjet 10 can't see the PNaCl compiler plugin when running through a proxy. (See chrome://components) (That was because the compiler was not in the user folder)
"TclError: Can't find a usable init.tcl in the following directories:" error when trying to run Grail (Solved)
"An exception occurred during applet loading : exceptions.TypeError: compile, argument 1: expected string without null bytes, string found" error on all official Grail demo applets, except for Clocks, Play A Sound File, Demos Similar to Common Java Demos, Show Grail's Applet Exception Handling, Calendar and A Little Joke. (That's because Grail can't decrypt gzipped http packets)
"An error occurred in a callback function : audiodev.error : no audio device" error if trying to play a sound in Play A Sound File. It's possible the audio files don't exist where they originally existed.
Old versions of Python and Tcl/Tk are required. These may work:
Python 1.5.2: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/win32/py152.exe
Alternatively, an all-in-one package can be used instead.
All-in-one packages: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516027726851735632/711328321819902083/Grail.7z, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516027726851735632/711588211222118450/Grail_but_More_Portable.7z (more portable version)
A list of some X3D players: https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html
Examples: Scene Archives for X3D: https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#Examples
FreeWRL examples: http://freewrl.sourceforge.net/examples.html
Flux Player 2.1 loads indefinitely under TheWorld 3.5.03
Castle Game Engine Web Plugin
Can't find C:\Program on PATH.
windres failed, cannot create Windows resource
No precompiled builds are available yet. As such, you may have to download any of the following files to compile the plugin:
Lazarus: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Windows%2032%20bits/ (it might be best to download the version with the highest version number)
Free Pascal (included with Lazarus, but also linked to separately in case that helps get the plugin compiled): https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Win32/
Castle Game Engine: https://github.com/castle-engine/castle-engine/releases/tag/snapshot
(Note: It's unclear whether these two links reference the same plugin or two different plugins with Tulip in the name)
<object>tag. This appears to because of a use of VBScript. VBScript can be reenabled via registry, or it might be cleaner to replace the JS.
- Some older Atmosphere worlds don't work in the plugin. Newer worlds (including galleries) won't work fully in the standalone player.
- Low FPS. Can seemingly be fixed by changing "Throttle when not active". Hardware acceleration can be added by editing a text file, but it results in oddities in the tic tac toe world (http://www.it-quadrat.de/ttt/ttt3d/ttt.aer)
- Cannot point plugin directly at an
<object>tag must be used. (This is an original Adobe Atmosphere limitation)
- Some worlds automatically close chat. Some other worlds put useful information in the chat. The chat open/closed preference is saved, so worlds with chat should probably have some code to open chat embedded.
- Excessive caching may be a possibility.
- Stairs are tricky to climb. Could be related to missing avatars? Might want to include default avatar in htdocs.
A proposal by Google for a standard 3D API for the Web. WebGL supplanted it. Google eventually wrote a WebGL version of O3D, but conversion is not automatic and the Beach demo was not converted
No known trustworthy downloads, although source code exists.
https://www.zhaodll.co/n/20130417/158957.html was tested and works, but the site is sketchy.
Plugin for a cross-platform programming language. Unfortunately the plugin only works in Internet Explorer.
Some kind of 3D viewer for .mcf files, which are things like sitemaps
https://web.archive.org/web/19970527121925fw_/http://www.hdcity.com/sample_index.html (requires a multitude of plugins)
An image compression plugin mainly used for orthophotos.
Window on the UK, Window on the Universe (Volumes 1 & 2) and the plugin installer: https://archive.org/details/bnsc-wouk
- Package contains o2c files and installer: https://discord.com/channels/432708847304704010/516027726851735632/767757315423207484
- Second package with another player: https://discord.com/channels/432708847304704010/516027726851735632/768027913080930345
Player using ocx files, but when trying run as ActiveX Control giving error "Registry Failed".
Could potentially be considered just another ActiveX control?
The sample at https://web.archive.org/web/20051223071519/http://www.pureform.org/virtualGallery.htm (linked from personal projects) reportedly has Flash <-> XVR interaction. This might not be supportable in Flashpoint unless Flash can be added to Flashpoint Secure Player or an NPAPI version of XVR is found.
Pulse3D - Added in Flashpoint 8.1
Pulse3D was previously called "Platinum VRML."
MICD2001_11_NR2.iso here: http://archive.org/details/MICD200111/
Browser plugins (at least the NPAPI one, didn't check ActiveX) seem to look for Pulse by using ShGetFolderPathA to find CSIDL_FLAG_CREATE | CSIDL_PROGRAM_FILES if that function exists (and if not, looking at a Registry entry).
Some files seem to need a command sent to the plugin (for example, Fozzie needs "play obj=Dummy01 pkg=assets/fozzie/Package2.pws transition=0.30 heading=yes behave=joke"). The NPAPI version of the plugin looks like it relies on LiveConnect, which might not be supported in Basilisk.
VRML - Added in Flashpoint 8.2
A list of some VRML players: https://www.vrinternal.com/docs/links.html
Cosmo Player: https://cosmo-player.en.softonic.com/download
*; Also contains links to other places containing VRML content.
Andrew's VRML Games and Puzzles: http://www.soc.napier.ac.uk/~andrew/vrml/
Web3D Amusements* (The English version of VRML GAME. It has VRML programs not in the other version, which is in Japanese): http://web.archive.org/web/20191017225236/http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~kekenken/main/index.html
A Little Bit About Me: http://members.bex.net/jtcullen515/AboutMe.htm
VRML resources for the 3E15 lecture - 14 October 1998*: http://www2.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/wwwvrml.dir/public-vrml/VRMLLECTURE/
A list of chat worlds and games at VR Internal (on the left sidebar): https://www.vrinternal.com/docs/links.html
FreeWRL examples: http://freewrl.sourceforge.net/examples.html
Internet Archive Search: subject:"VRML": https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22VRML%22
Google search for VRML, limited to .ac.uk addresses*: https://www.google.com/search?q=VRML+site%3Aac.uk
Floops episodes 7, 10, 24, 28, 29, 31, 36, 38 and 46 from Floops' Greatest Hits, a CD-ROM published in 1997 by Silicon Graphics: https://github.com/Sgeo/floopsArchive/tree/master/floops
Google search for VRML, limited to altervista.org addresses*: https://www.google.com/search?q=VRML+site%3Aaltervista.org
The Haunted House (created by Nekochan member nongrato): http://web.archive.org/web/20190704003702/http://sgizone.co.nf/haunted/
Google search for VRML, limited to VRML archives*: https://www.google.com/search?q=VRML+archive
Google search for VRML, limited to gainos.org addresses*: https://www.google.com/search?q=VRML+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fgainos.org
Google search for VRML, limited to .edu addresses*: https://www.google.com/search?q=VRML+site:edu
Lots and Lots of VRML 1: https://bluepload.unstable.life/lotsandlotsofvrml1.7z
All VRML worlds from Archive Team's Geocities scrape (1,985 .wrl files total) https://flashfreeze.submissions.unstable.life/geocities.7z
Flux Player 2.1 is stuck loading under TheWorld 3.5.03
Too many players with variations: Which ones should get included?
Live3D: Crashes on page navigation resolvable by using in Netscape 4
Cosmo Player: Struggles with large worlds. Direct3D renderer (the default) seems to cause dropped polygons (in Mod Gun and Beat Monk Bash at least) and drifting cameras (in Mod Dance Party) and wrongly rendering textures (in Dilbert animation I Think Therefore I Am). Have been unable to get software renderer to work. OpenGL renderer (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\CosmoSoftware\CosmoPlayer\2.1.1\renderer = OPENGL) seems to work fine on one system, needs testing before any decision to hardcode.
Blaxxun Contact 4.4: If a world has sounds but a sound has not played yet, low FPS. This seems to occur in a full install too.
Blaxxun Contact 4.4: Some worlds rely on RealPlayer G2. Include in Blaxxun config? Example world: http://www.e-spaces.com/portfolio/ssg/vrml/main.wrl
Tcl Plugin - Added in Flashpoint 8.2
See https://bluepload.unstable.life/tcl-info.txt for many examples.
The Tcl plugin may not load unless these conditions are met:
- The page with the Tcl embed has to be the first page loaded by the browser (not counting about:home).
- The page must be allowed to complete loading without scrolling the page or moving the mouse over the embed area.
Tested in latest K-Meleon (non-Goanna) version on 2019-08-17.